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CF.... Will MBM 5.07 recognize the DS18B20 when hooked up to the SMbus headers on a mobo for viewing on the 634 ?? thanks ray

I thought I would show how I wired up my temp sensors. I started with a hand full of 3-pin Y-adaptors (photo #1) I got from http://www.svc.com/conad.html I then cut off one male lead and wired in the temp sensor (phot #2) Once I had them all wired up I strung them together. I then heated each one with my fingers to determine it's address. I then numbered them accordingly and reassembled the sting in order. Photo #3 shows the exhaust fan sensor above the video card, and the ambient temp sensor below the video card. Photo #4 show the 633 face plate installed. Since I can't figure out how to post more than one photo see additional posts. Sorry, maybe someone can enlighten me on this. John

Here is the pic I will be refering too. They basically took the sensor and sanded it down to give a smaller profile. Which they also reported, seemed to give faster tempature readings. Doing this might make it a bit easier to mount it under a processor. ======================= Also CF... How difficult do you think it would be to replace the default LCD on the 633 with one of the color moduals in the same size? It doesn't look too easy to do (I can't see how it's attacked in any pics), but just asking because I have IDEAS

I have seen thermal glue at Cyber Guys and at other locations. Would this not be better than super glue? Super glue has no listed themal rating but Artic Silver the brand cyberguys.com has is rated at a thermal conductivity of 8.4 (84% appx.).

ok, I am new to this and need help all the way from wiring to actually making it work. I get how to wire sensors. Although I dont get how does one get the data from them to the pad. I concur one needs to get it to the computer and then the LCD software will take it to the LCD screen right? __________________ only YOU can prevent Athlon fires

On the power supply. This was supposed to measure the temperature of the air going into the power supply, but I mounted it to the case of the power supply, and I think the case is heated by the big heatsinks inside the power supply, so it is really more of a "power supply case temp" sensor: Finally, there is a sensor that reads the temperature of the power supply's exhaust air: Then all that is left is to connect the string to the 633. You really do not want to use a "fan" connector for this, (no matter how tempting) because if you put the 12v intended for a fan onto your sensor string, you will probably toast all of your sensors. I found one nifty thing about this motherbooard: It has a COM2 on the inside of the case. Alas, the Micron BIOS does not allow it to be enabled. I later found a BIOS that turns COM2 on, but now accounting will not let me at the machine. Ungrateful louts. Because the 633 is mounted in a drive bay, it may be too far from the fans. Luckily I had a few 3-pin extendor cables http://www.crystalfontz.com/products....html#WRFANX01 Now all that is left is to wire up the 633 to power. This is simple, since you just use a standard floppy power connector. If you are out of floppy connectors you can get a 3-Pin to 4-Pin Adapter: Well, this post covers some ideas of physically installing the temperature sensors. I plan to modify 633_WinTest to add temperature logging capability. When I do, I'll post the results here. Next up is to identify how the sensors correspond to the sensor numbers used by the 633. Basically you need to hook up the 633 and 633_Wintest and have it display & update all the temperatures. Then heat (or cool) each sensor and record which temperature changes on-screen. From there you can make a table that says sensor 3 is the CPU and sensor 4 is the incoming air and so on. This will never change as long as you are using the same sensor string, but you do need to manually associate the physical sensors with the sensor numbers in the 633. Once it was all hooked up, it did not look so bad (well, considering that it was a pretty ugly case to start with). The Micron Spitfire case has a door that covers all but the top drive bay, so I put the 633 in the top bay where it is always exposed, and then the rest of the drives are covered by the door. I used 633_WinTest to set up the 633 to continuously monitor and display the two fans along with the processor temperature sensor and one other sensor:

Here is the processor that I am using: Now we are ready to see where the temp sensor is going to fit on the processor: There is probably some adhesive out there that is made to have high thermal conductivity. For the rest of us, there is: It probably is not a bad solution, since there will not be very much heat transferred between the sensor and the object it is sensing (because the sensor has a relatively low thermal mass) and since the layer of cured glue should be very thin, the overall thermal resistance of the joint should not be too great. If you are queasy about gluing something to your processor, this is probably not the project for you. Put a small drop of cyanoacrylate adhesive on the sensor and stick that baby smack dab in the middle of the processor: Now it is time for another test fit:

I did not think about the heat-sink clip, so I had to angle the wires towards the corner of the processor to miss it: This looks like it will work OK: Now it is time to connect the next sensor in the string. The larger wire I use here is 24 gauge. 26 gauge would certainly be fine and be less bulky. Start by twisting the wires: I found it was easiest to pre-solder the wires to each other: Then solder them to the DS18B20: Do all three, adding the heat-shrink tubing as you go: Then cut some larger heatshrink tubing to go over the whole assembly: And shrink it:

Now we are ready to mount the sensor on the heat-sink: Drop of glue at the ready: And it is in place: It is fairly important to twist the wires. first off, it makes them look nicer, and second off it can reduce the interference picked up on the data line from the electrically noisy PC environment. One last test-fit on the motherboard, looks OK: Now you basically keep adding sensors along the string wherever you want to read a temperature. Same sequence of strip and solder: and then cover: and shrink: I put one on the chipset: The video card heatsink and RAM: The incoming airflow just after the front panel fan: On the hard drive, which is probably doomed anyway:

My first thought was "Who cares? It is just for accounting." Then I remembered that I had just received a bag of Dallas Semiconductor DS18B20 temperature sensors: Of course I had a 633 and mounting bracket handy, so I thought that it would be fun to put a few temperature sensors on this ugly beast. Here is what a DS18B20 looks like up close: Basically it has three terminals: +5v, Ground, and a bi-directional data pin. You can connect up to 32 of these to a 633 by just stringing all the similar signals together on a "multi-drop" bus: In order to get a sensor under the processor, we need some fine wire: Solder the fine wire up to the DS18B20: Do that for all three wires: Then put some small heat-shrink tubing over the connections: And shrink the tubing:

1.WinCE也可以去掉图形的。 2.Linux的驱动在内核状态下运行跟是否集成在内核没什么关系的！ 一般是系统都分为内核空间跟用户空间，两者的权限是不同的，用户空间如果想访问内核空间，只能通过系统调用等方法去实现。如果在程序在用户空间出了问题，系统一般不会受什么影响，但如果在内核空间出了问题，系统可能就会崩溃了！所以我说Linux开发难度高就是这个原因。因为Linux的驱动是运行在内核空间的，这个与驱动是集成在内核里还是以模块方式加载无关！但另一方面，这种方式的实时性更好，系统运行效率更高。 3.正如我之前所说，WinCE的强项之一是图形界面，在没有图形界面的产品中，WinCE是竞争不过Linux的。

Linux跟WinCE是什么内核在<<Windows CE嵌入式系统>>的第2章（Page 23）有讲。 我个人并非偏向某个OS，只是觉得它们各有优缺点，按自己的需求选择使用就是了。

个人觉得Linux成也开源，败也开源！因为开源，所以Linux受到很多人的喜爱，得以发展到如今这样有竞争力的OS。 但也因为开源，所以损害了大多数厂商、公司的利益，毕竟开源了，对别人就没什么秘密可言了！所以这也是大多数厂商、公司对Linux的支持力度不够的原因。 　 　　记得上一年我负责的一个Linux项目（PC平台的），是做一个驱动和一个共享库。因为公司要求不能开源，所以只好在每个流行的Linux发行版本编译一次，把编译好的的驱动和共享库给客户使用。 　　个人觉得Linux在PC平台很难推广，反尔在嵌入式方面会比较受欢迎。

1.WinCE也可以去掉图形的。 2.Linux的驱动在内核状态下运行跟是否集成在内核没什么关系的！ 一般是系统都分为内核空间跟用户空间，两者的权限是不同的，用户空间如果想访问内核空间，只能通过系统调用等方法去实现。如果在程序在用户空间出了问题，系统一般不会受什么影响，但如果在内核空间出了问题，系统可能就会崩溃了！所以我说Linux开发难度高就是这个原因。因为Linux的驱动是运行在内核空间的，这个与驱动是集成在内核里还是以模块方式加载无关！但另一方面，这种方式的实时性更好，系统运行效率更高。 3.正如我之前所说，WinCE的强项之一是图形界面，在没有图形界面的产品中，WinCE是竞争不过Linux的。